#5 Jack Jillings, a Cybersecurity Recruiter with a Sports Psychology degree | socode.co.uk

5/22/2025

Welcome to the talk with Jack!

Background-wise, Jack is really interesting.

He has studied Sports Psychology - I believe that is coming in handy when he needs grit & determination. Working in sales & climbing the corporate ladder in a car rental industry has shaped him to be focused on what the customer needs.

But I think that this episode is about CyberSecurity market is up & down, constantly, because of the demand & supply law.

Several years ago you had many job postings, and few people that are able to fill them. Some time passed, people got the wind of things, and even though the amount of CyberSec jobs grew, the proportion didn't stay the same.

The fact that major companies in the USA laid off 5/10/15% of their IT headcount is not helping the market either. Other companies see that this is possible, and want to follow suit, because they all chase the profits.

Having said that, Jack sees a trend that good jobs are slowly coming back. Hope is there, the demand for Cybersecurity is growing again.

Other than that, we discussed that a good external hiring agency should be more like a consultant (provide the client insights about the market, when it is helpful for them), why internal talent acquisition and external recruitment should be friendly to each other (we all have a lot to do, so we can focus on helping each other and not be antagonistic), and why some senior Cyber people are afraid to pick up their phones (yes, it's because of the cold calling haha).

In the ad break I talk about my sponsor. Me 😂 If you know a person that have trouble hiring for CyberSecurity role, let them know about me, and once I make a successful placement, I will wire you 1,000 Euros. This person has to mention you. I work on a success fee basis, and I charge one monthly salary gross for a successful hire.

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